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	<title>Comments on: Eclipse Europa&#8230;  Too Many Choices&#8230;</title>
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	<description>random crap from the mouth of erik weibust</description>
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		<title>By: Erik Weibust</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/#comment-3542</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Weibust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Fran...  I'm still confused why Eclipse needs an Eclipse version and a Classic version.  WTH?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Fran&#8230;  I&#8217;m still confused why Eclipse needs an Eclipse version and a Classic version.  WTH?</p>
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		<title>By: fran</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/#comment-3541</link>
		<dc:creator>fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look

i had the same issue until I saw this page.

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look</p>
<p>i had the same issue until I saw this page.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/#comment-3475</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, well i got the same problem when i tried to download eclipse!!!
that's why i stop by this blog.... i wonder which version is the best for J2ME apps development, actually i dont know....
i think im gonna pick the classic one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, well i got the same problem when i tried to download eclipse!!!<br />
that&#8217;s why i stop by this blog&#8230;. i wonder which version is the best for J2ME apps development, actually i dont know&#8230;.<br />
i think im gonna pick the classic one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/#comment-3242</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good. I was able to open my workspace from classic 3.1 no problem. And I already noticed a few nice bug fixes in 3.3. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks good. I was able to open my workspace from classic 3.1 no problem. And I already noticed a few nice bug fixes in 3.3. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/#comment-3241</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was previously using classic 3.1 for java development. I'm wondering if I switch to europa will it be seamless (importing existing projects) and will I be missing anything that I had in classic. Guess I will give it a go &#38; let you know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was previously using classic 3.1 for java development. I&#8217;m wondering if I switch to europa will it be seamless (importing existing projects) and will I be missing anything that I had in classic. Guess I will give it a go &amp; let you know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Skerrett</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/#comment-3238</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Skerrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have mentioned that if you want an Eclipse distro there are a number of organizations providing distros.   Yoxos is probably the most comprehensive http://eclipsediscovery.yoxos.com/discovery/rap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have mentioned that if you want an Eclipse distro there are a number of organizations providing distros.   Yoxos is probably the most comprehensive <a href="http://eclipsediscovery.yoxos.com/discovery/rap" rel="nofollow">http://eclipsediscovery.yoxos.com/discovery/rap</a></p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/#comment-3236</link>
		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy Avery,  Thanks for dropping by.

I agree with you on the need for a true all-in-one.  I wasted a full day downloading and building an Eclipse distro for my teams dev environment.

Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy Avery,  Thanks for dropping by.</p>
<p>I agree with you on the need for a true all-in-one.  I wasted a full day downloading and building an Eclipse distro for my teams dev environment.</p>
<p>Erik</p>
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		<title>By: Avery Regier</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/#comment-3235</link>
		<dc:creator>Avery Regier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be too big to have an all in one for normal downloads, but that is what BitTorrent is for.

An all in one would greatly simplify the setup process, when all you really want is a way to get started quickly without having to be bothered with a bunch of secondary installs and updates and figuring your way through the update manager.  My time is more valuable than that.   Yes, the download may take a while, but again, that's why we have BitTorrent.

By not including Mylin and the XML editor in Classic, you just made the Classic install much less inviting and useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be too big to have an all in one for normal downloads, but that is what BitTorrent is for.</p>
<p>An all in one would greatly simplify the setup process, when all you really want is a way to get started quickly without having to be bothered with a bunch of secondary installs and updates and figuring your way through the update manager.  My time is more valuable than that.   Yes, the download may take a while, but again, that&#8217;s why we have BitTorrent.</p>
<p>By not including Mylin and the XML editor in Classic, you just made the Classic install much less inviting and useful.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/#comment-3234</link>
		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,

Thanks a ton for clearing things up.

Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>Thanks a ton for clearing things up.</p>
<p>Erik</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Skerrett</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/#comment-3233</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Skerrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik,

Think Eclipse Classic = Eclipse Platform + JDT + PDE + All Source Code.  I hope this helps.  :-)

Dean,

Thanks for the feedback.   We will try to improve the descriptions for each package.   If you do want all 21 projects, I would suggest starting with Eclipse Classic or Eclipse for RCP Developer.  Then use the update manager to download what you want.   Putting all 21 projects into one download would have made it just too big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik,</p>
<p>Think Eclipse Classic = Eclipse Platform + JDT + PDE + All Source Code.  I hope this helps.  <img src='http://erik.weibust.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dean,</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback.   We will try to improve the descriptions for each package.   If you do want all 21 projects, I would suggest starting with Eclipse Classic or Eclipse for RCP Developer.  Then use the update manager to download what you want.   Putting all 21 projects into one download would have made it just too big.</p>
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