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	<title>Comments on: Eclipse Europa&#8230;  Too Many Choices&#8230;</title>
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	<description>random crap from the mouth of erik weibust</description>
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		<title>By: crantok</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-5888</link>
		<dc:creator>crantok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! Two and a half years after you post this and I stumble across it because I'm similarly confused. (I've never programmed in Java but want to give Groovy a go and it's not supported by my favourite editor, Geany.)

I blame the Eclipse website. It's so visually busy that I didn't even try to figure anything out there. I googled
    difference "eclipse classic" "eclipse ide for java developers"
and this page is the second link. The first link is the page that confused me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Two and a half years after you post this and I stumble across it because I&#8217;m similarly confused. (I&#8217;ve never programmed in Java but want to give Groovy a go and it&#8217;s not supported by my favourite editor, Geany.)</p>
<p>I blame the Eclipse website. It&#8217;s so visually busy that I didn&#8217;t even try to figure anything out there. I googled<br />
    difference &#8220;eclipse classic&#8221; &#8220;eclipse ide for java developers&#8221;<br />
and this page is the second link. The first link is the page that confused me.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Weibust</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-4414</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Weibust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy Michael,

Thanks for stopping by.  Your question can be answered in one sentence or with volumes of books.

Java (SE) is the standard edition of Java.  It can be used for all kinds of programming tasks.  It is also the core, basis for Java EE.  Java EE is the web application framework you would use to develop web applications.

Check out Sun's robust tutorial site.
http://java.sun.com/developer/onlineTraining/

Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy Michael,</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by.  Your question can be answered in one sentence or with volumes of books.</p>
<p>Java (SE) is the standard edition of Java.  It can be used for all kinds of programming tasks.  It is also the core, basis for Java EE.  Java EE is the web application framework you would use to develop web applications.</p>
<p>Check out Sun&#8217;s robust tutorial site.<br />
<a href="http://java.sun.com/developer/onlineTraining/" rel="nofollow">http://java.sun.com/developer/onlineTraining/</a></p>
<p>Erik</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schultz</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-4413</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 06:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the difference between Java EE and Jave?

I want to build a website with Google App Engine.

Which download is applicable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the difference between Java EE and Jave?</p>
<p>I want to build a website with Google App Engine.</p>
<p>Which download is applicable?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-3752</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to use eclipse, back when it was first introduced.  Recently, when faced with the need to write some Java applications, I decided to explore it once again.  The download page was incredibly daunting.  So after reading this article:
http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/34009/0/page/1
I decided just to download netbeans from the sun website.  Now, I appreciate netbeans, and will only download eclipse if I'm forced to use it (by an employer).  It seems superior to eclipse (the old one that I was used to, but according to the article above, much is unchanged) in several ways and much more intuitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to use eclipse, back when it was first introduced.  Recently, when faced with the need to write some Java applications, I decided to explore it once again.  The download page was incredibly daunting.  So after reading this article:<br />
<a href="http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/34009/0/page/1" rel="nofollow">http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/34009/0/page/1</a><br />
I decided just to download netbeans from the sun website.  Now, I appreciate netbeans, and will only download eclipse if I&#8217;m forced to use it (by an employer).  It seems superior to eclipse (the old one that I was used to, but according to the article above, much is unchanged) in several ways and much more intuitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Weibust</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-3542</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Weibust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Fran...  I'm still confused why Eclipse needs an Eclipse version and a Classic version.  WTH?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Fran&#8230;  I&#8217;m still confused why Eclipse needs an Eclipse version and a Classic version.  WTH?</p>
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		<title>By: fran</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-3541</link>
		<dc:creator>fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look

i had the same issue until I saw this page.

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look</p>
<p>i had the same issue until I saw this page.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-3475</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, well i got the same problem when i tried to download eclipse!!!
that's why i stop by this blog.... i wonder which version is the best for J2ME apps development, actually i dont know....
i think im gonna pick the classic one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, well i got the same problem when i tried to download eclipse!!!<br />
that&#8217;s why i stop by this blog&#8230;. i wonder which version is the best for J2ME apps development, actually i dont know&#8230;.<br />
i think im gonna pick the classic one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good. I was able to open my workspace from classic 3.1 no problem. And I already noticed a few nice bug fixes in 3.3. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks good. I was able to open my workspace from classic 3.1 no problem. And I already noticed a few nice bug fixes in 3.3. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-3241</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was previously using classic 3.1 for java development. I'm wondering if I switch to europa will it be seamless (importing existing projects) and will I be missing anything that I had in classic. Guess I will give it a go &amp; let you know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was previously using classic 3.1 for java development. I&#8217;m wondering if I switch to europa will it be seamless (importing existing projects) and will I be missing anything that I had in classic. Guess I will give it a go &amp; let you know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Skerrett</title>
		<link>http://erik.weibust.net/2007/06/29/eclipse-europa-too-many-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-3238</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Skerrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have mentioned that if you want an Eclipse distro there are a number of organizations providing distros.   Yoxos is probably the most comprehensive http://eclipsediscovery.yoxos.com/discovery/rap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have mentioned that if you want an Eclipse distro there are a number of organizations providing distros.   Yoxos is probably the most comprehensive <a href="http://eclipsediscovery.yoxos.com/discovery/rap" rel="nofollow">http://eclipsediscovery.yoxos.com/discovery/rap</a></p>
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